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Mar. 26th, 2008 02:48 pm
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I am well aware of the now infamous "Joss Whedon is a rapist and Firefly abuses women" LJ entry. I actually came across it last year and rolled my eyes and moved on. It's just drivel and bigoted drivel to boot. However wank is now ensuing and yours truly will no doubt be deleting the umpteen links to it at Whedonesque. I really do loath extremists of any kind and hate to give them the oxygen of publicity.

Date: 2008-03-26 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybrick.livejournal.com
...whosawhatsit? Haven't heard this one before o.O

Date: 2008-03-26 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sl-podcast.livejournal.com
I've been enjoying the (sane) discussion on the article, but I agree with not having it on Whedonesque.

Really insane people on the interwebs.

Date: 2008-03-26 03:25 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-26 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybrick.livejournal.com
Wow. Just... wow.

"I would argue that most 'sex' between men and women, in the contemporary 'sex-positive', pornographic, male-supremacist culture, is rape."


Okay then.

This was posted months ago... are people just finding it now? Delayed wank?

Date: 2008-03-26 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sl-podcast.livejournal.com
Yep, someone stumbled across it this week and it's now been linked around. Plus, she responded to the new discussion. http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/the-whedonites-attack/
Edited Date: 2008-03-26 04:00 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-26 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybrick.livejournal.com
Sigh. Why are extremists always so intent on damaging the causes they support?

Date: 2008-03-26 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kuzibah.livejournal.com
There's actually discussion beyond "this person is obviously insane"? Geez, people, get out of the house once in a while.

Date: 2008-03-26 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] menomegirl.livejournal.com
I really do loath extremists of any kind and hate to give them the oxygen of publicity.

Word.

Date: 2008-03-26 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carduustristus.livejournal.com
Yikes.

I think she's defining "feminist" as "anyone who is me". Because I think of myself as a feminist, having made my way in the world as the only woman in the room and I can see that she is seriously angry about something.

Date: 2008-03-27 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wondersheep.livejournal.com
I saw the hawesomest bumper sticker the other day. In the style of a presidential campaign bumper sticker:

Whedon/Minear - For a strong, vampire-free America.

What does this have to do with anything? Nuthin'.

Date: 2008-03-27 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electrcspacegrl.livejournal.com
"I would argue that most 'sex' between men and women, in the contemporary 'sex-positive', pornographic, male-supremacist culture, is rape."

I believe that's Andrea Dworkin Feminism, where penises are weapons of women's mass destruction.
Edited Date: 2008-03-27 09:12 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-27 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electrcspacegrl.livejournal.com
It looks to me like this person was just looking for misogyny in Firefly, and when you look for something hard enough, you do find it. I'm most apalled that she immediately had a problem with Zoe calling Mal "sir". Um. They were soldiers. Mal was her superior. And if she can't understand that, she's got serious developmental problems.

This whole thing would be ridiculous if she hadn't accused Joss of being a rapist. I find that offensive.

Date: 2008-03-27 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electrcspacegrl.livejournal.com
Oh dear god. I read more of that thread and now I'm even more apalled that the post has changed so many people's minds about Joss being a feminist. WTF?

And the personal attacks. Fuck, that's really pissing me off.

Date: 2008-03-27 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electrcspacegrl.livejournal.com
Where did you see this? And where can I get one?

Date: 2008-03-27 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wondersheep.livejournal.com
A Mazda on 39th and Stark. I didn't recognize the driver, and I had to get to work otherwise I woulda stalked the guy!

Date: 2008-03-28 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simonf.livejournal.com
I managed to track it down and link to it at Whedonesque. So cheers for that.

Date: 2008-03-28 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wondersheep.livejournal.com
You are a god amongst men.

But you knew that already.

Date: 2008-03-29 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamdigitalis.livejournal.com
Wow, she's really lame.

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