A frequently asked question
May. 13th, 2011 10:17 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
sombrefanWhy has this rule been in place for so long?
'Shipping' is not allowed on Whedonesque. Any post or comment that is aggressively focused on any particular 'ship' or any particular actor and/or actively supports fan factions and feuds is subject to deletion.
Apparently this is going to be part of someone's PHd thesis so it's been in my mind of late. Well years ago the Spuffies and Bangels were fighting so much, it was derailing any thread we had about Buffy. There may have been a "oh Joss reads the site so we'll have to show our strength" vibe behind this but I've never seen anything concrete about it. However the fighting got so out of hand despite bannings (people would re-register afterwards to carrry on fighting) and warnings so we brought in a zero-tolerance policy. And things settled down. Well generally. There is the occasional coded attack and flare-up. And I do get a shipping smear tactic lobbed my way from time to time "you can't trust him - he hangs round at Cold Dead Seed, he's pro Bangel or he has Spuffies on his LJ flist". But I don't take those seriously.
Can there ever be peace between the rival factions? I don't think so, it would be great if there was mutal respect but it all seems to be about separation in the fandom over the last few years rather than inclusiveness. Good luck to anyone trying to sort it out.
'Shipping' is not allowed on Whedonesque. Any post or comment that is aggressively focused on any particular 'ship' or any particular actor and/or actively supports fan factions and feuds is subject to deletion.
Apparently this is going to be part of someone's PHd thesis so it's been in my mind of late. Well years ago the Spuffies and Bangels were fighting so much, it was derailing any thread we had about Buffy. There may have been a "oh Joss reads the site so we'll have to show our strength" vibe behind this but I've never seen anything concrete about it. However the fighting got so out of hand despite bannings (people would re-register afterwards to carrry on fighting) and warnings so we brought in a zero-tolerance policy. And things settled down. Well generally. There is the occasional coded attack and flare-up. And I do get a shipping smear tactic lobbed my way from time to time "you can't trust him - he hangs round at Cold Dead Seed, he's pro Bangel or he has Spuffies on his LJ flist". But I don't take those seriously.
Can there ever be peace between the rival factions? I don't think so, it would be great if there was mutal respect but it all seems to be about separation in the fandom over the last few years rather than inclusiveness. Good luck to anyone trying to sort it out.
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Date: 2011-05-13 04:04 pm (UTC)That happened directly to Buffy whereas nothing Angelus did was directly done to Buffy so she had an easier time forgiving Angel his crimes.
Well, that's your opinion. I don't believe that Buffy has a harder time forgiving people who have hurt her directly, rather than hurting other people, especially those close to her. I believe the opposite. I don't think Buffy would ever forgive anyone if they tried to rape or kill Dawn.
I think that the reason why she might have had an easier time forgiving Angel in S3 was that she didn't fully process at the time that he was Angelus, even when she talked about the things he did she had this disconnect between Angel and Angelus. When she started to see Angelus in Angel (as with his all-too-good acting in Enemies) it bothered her.
Although, it also helped that Jenny wasn't that close to Buffy, and Giles made it alive that time. If instead of Jenny it had been Joyce's neck he snapped, I don't think she would have forgiven him.